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Opinion Poll

Ok, so if you had to choose between the following 2 Pitchers and R/L did not matter need wise, who would you take - and why?

A - 1.10 Whip 7) H/9 3) BB/9
2. - 1.10 Whip 8) H/9 2) BB/9

I if you have good DWar Players say take the guy with only 2 walks per 9 and my reasoning is that -High DWar allows Defenders to change Hits into Outs - while BB, are what they are - the opportunity to possibly take away one of the hits my pitcher might surrender (which could be a Double by the way) seems to me a superior alternative to having NO Chance to eliminate a Walk

Thoughts??

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I’d still take the lower H9 guy and my defense will make him even that much more dominant. Walks hurt but not as much as hits.

Before rank it was a no brainer, but since rank was implemented walks started happening more. So yeah, I’ve thought about what you said before, but still would lean towards the lower H9 and deal with some walks.

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Thanks for responding YBB, I think a lot will feel the same way you do because hits are a countable statistic whereas, we really don't know how often Dwar occurs.

This is a very thinly veiled attempt to ask Guy to consider adding play by play result description to define DWar affected plays.

One last thing, I admit to being fixated on defense, I love when my team hits, but good defense wins a lot of games, so if a player has 2B/IF as his positions and he is a +1.00 DWar, he gets that at all Infield positions except catcher, correct?

and if he ended up playing OF, would his DWar rank still stand? I know his error % would be BAD

Guy, I get that this may be a low priority, but it really effects like everything except a, K, HR, BB, HBP, or error, that's a lot

Love the site and all you do. everyone should toss $20.00 a year in, the amount of entertainment you get is so well worth it.

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I think he has said before that if player is out of position (C or OF in your scenario), dwar goes to zero, or stays negative if it already is.

Yeah, it’s explained on edit lineup page.

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Do have to say walks are WAY up. Didnt notice because I don't watch sims until playoffs. Wow. My '97 Maddux really issuing free passes for a guy with less than 1 per nine in his real stats line.

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I have not noticed a change in BB frequency, but was a bit surprised when folks only thought SS and CF were really important DWar slots ( these positions are where you NEED to have good defense) BTW, a great third baseman SHOULD be almost as valuable as a great SS, - a slick fielding 3B can take away balls hit down the line, which are often doubles, a SS only takes away a single although they get more chances and probably do account for more outs from DWar.

This is part of the reason that I would like to have a positive or negative DWar result be able to be determined by the play description, have I been dumb passing up a better hitter at 3B, think that Scott Rolen's +3.35 DWar will make up for his like .306 average?

I don't get why it's such a secret, and maybe it is not meant to be, it could be simply that the Webmaster does not rate that addition to the game highly enough, and there are other priorities.





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But you are talking about real baseball. Guy has said in this game (and maybe reality, I don’t know), SS and CF get the most action, that’s why people say dwar is most important there.

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It seems appropriate to me that 1997 Maddux would issue more walks.

He is facing all star lineups instead, you can figure that he would be pitching around the plate againts these studs...
a lot more than he would vs an everyday miserable MLB lineup...

Guys with lower H9, higher W9 & K9 rate like Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, Nolan Ryan, John Smoltz, can just be there own self and go toe to toe withe big guns... control pitchers like Maddux, David Wells,etc would allow more contacts, so more chances at some fireworks...

Limiting contacts againts big time SLG guys is quite a +, so a guy like Maddux should suffer more than Randy Johnson who can limit contacts...

plus limiting contacts prevents runners from moving around the basepaths...converting into more runs than strikeouts would...

As for dwar... a + 3 dwar at 3b should be as valuable as a + 3dwar at cf or ss as their impact is the same for the 3 position, being at the end of the day an additional 3 wins for any of these players...

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Very good point about a high Strikeout pitcher eliminating contact which can advance runners , I kind of forgot about that, and it matters, however it can also be a negative, if there are men at 1st and 3rd with 1 out, would you prefer a K or a one hopper to SS or 3B?

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Not sure how someone averaging less than a walk per 9 statistically has anything to do with their pitching style...if the is sim built around stats it should reflect those.also a best of 97 league, so not all star lineups most of the time.

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Even in a best of a single year league the best pitchers and hitters should perform below their season stats, The pitchers dont get to face the platoon or bench guys hardly at all and the big hitters dont get to face the number 4 and 5 starters or the really low rated relievers

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Maddux’s Career compiled BB per 9 in that 1997 league is 1.8, which is the best by any starter by a wide margin. Next best is Curt Schilling at 2.3.

Even in a best of single season, the lineups are better. It’s 12 teams vs 30.

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Which is why, when you're counting on him to be your #1 in a playoff series and he's walking people left and right...it'll drive you mad! Obviously better lineups, such is the fate of the Sim!

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I feel you. My ace just got killed in a custom league single game wild card playoff. :(

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I thought I would add my two cents. In general, I am always taking the guy with less H/9 unless the BB/9 is extreme. Assuming that 3 is not extreme in that league, give me the H/9 guy.

Also, to answer Sincity, I hear what you are saying about the K vs. the one hopper to the SS/3B. Would you rather take one out versus a chance at 2? Maybe I am a bit conservative, but I am always taking the one. If I have a dominant strikeout pitcher, I like my chances against the next batter. A one hopper to the SS can easily just get one out and let the run score, or worse he might try to throw the runner out at home and fail. Then I have allowed a run, left two men on, and still have the one out.

You have to look at both sides good and bad. Give me the Ks.

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It's strictly a matter of choice - but the part about throwing home and maybe the runner is safe, only happens from the 8th inning on, by then my starter is probably gone and in fairness, I should have qualified that I meant mostly STARTING Pitchers

Late relievers generally have high K rates and they face so few batters the odds of DWar making much of a difference is small, where a starter has like 6 or 7 innings of chances to have DWar make an effect. and it really was intended to be a factor between two very close pitchers with their only significant difference being a 1 Hit or 1 BB - Strikeout rate was not mentioned and has no effect on DWar - Yes higher K's are better, but they REALLY were not part of the equation, because the entire theory is that DWar can take a HIT away but not a BB - strikeouts are not even a possibility or important in DWar

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For the negligeable amount of contacts that will convert into a double play vs a run creating fielders choice, sac fly, fielding error, a base hit or a dinger.... I am taking the K and the occasional walk everyday...