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YANKS GET GERRIT FREAKING COLE!!! 🤯🤯


YANKS GET GERRIT FREAKING COLE!!! 🤯🤯

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More than a million dollars per start for the next 9 years. Better hope he stays healthy...

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I think it was closer to 2 million, actually

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Yeah, Stanton's worked out so well for them ;-)

- The Sheik

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I remember in 1998 when the Dodgers were over the moon after they signed Kevin Brown to the richest contract in history... MLB's first $100 million contract ($105/7 years). Plus, his family had use of a private jet to fly from GA to L.A. when he pitched.

Kevin Brown during the years of that contract:
164 GS (129 in 5 seasons with LAD, 35 in 2 seasons with NYY).

Brown was 34 when he signed the contract, Cole is only 28, so Cole makes more sense. Plus, the Dodgers won 5 World Series championships with Brown, so there is reason to believe the Yankees made a wise move.

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Uhhhhh... 5 WS championships for a team that hasn't won since a decade prior to the time mentioned? 🤔🤨

Try again Sol lol

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Finally, some evidence that RagingSol actually lives in an alternate universe. He must have a secret porthole that opens up and lets him travel back and forth between the world where the Dodgers win and the one where they don't. Sol, how have my Twins done in that alternate universe? I hope they've been good. Lol

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Oh brother 🙄😂😂😂

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Twins lose to the Yankees in every tangent in every space-time contiuum in every universe, Gus. It's not entirely your fault, though.

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Yankees made a wise move, it just cost a ton and we all know won’t be worth it the last bunch of years as it will the first bunch. Yankees desperately need starting pitching and so went for it. I’m just glad Rothschild isn’t there to screw with Cole. Not sure who new pitching coach is but hopefully Cole just gets too his own thing.

I also don’t agree with the popular media story that Yankees are suddenly clearly the best team in MLB. Definitely helps in AL with gaining Cole and Astros losing him (and their trash cans)

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One thing I never could stand is everyone saying that the Yankees buy championships. Okay they have money to spend, who are we to tell them what they can and can't spend it on. And who cares really oh, it's not our money that gets spent. and if you don't want to pay the premium prices that the MLB teams charge these days, then don't make an effort to go out to the ballpark! Watch it at hooooooooome! Now there's an idea!

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It’s funny because buying a bunch of free agents never worked. Yankees won with homegrown talent and that’s how they are good again now.

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From the late 90's to the early 2000's the Yankees had success by complementing their CORE of homegrown players with FA, not the other way around. This was mentioned in a book about the Joe Torrie years, co-written by Torrie and sportswriter Tom Verduci (spelling?)

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"if you don't want to pay the premium prices that the MLB teams charge these days, then don't make an effort to go out to the ballpark!" I'm able to make it out to Dodger Stadium 3 -5 times a year these days. Spectrum has made it harder to watch the games at home, but I figured out an end-around to see as many Dodger games as I want. If you sit in the All You Can Eat Right Field Pavillion, seats (on StubHub) run $50 - $75 depending on day of week/ opponent and parking is $20. Add gas for the car and It costs , bottom end, $100 to go to a game. Back in the '70's, I used to go to as many as 40 games a year - field boxes were $5 and Press Reserve was $3.50 !! Parking was $1.50.

- The Sheik

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Sorry, I kinda react strongly to people saying the Yanks aren't supposed to be allowed to spend the money they earn from the product they put on the field or something along those lines.

What I can't figure out, is why it really MATTERS what they do and don't spend their money on... I mean it IS their money to spend, right? If you had millions upon millions of dollars wouldn't you be inclined to spend at least some of it too?

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Skooler, the National Hockey League uses a Salary Cap method that seems to work marvellously well for all sides. It is simply a much fairer method of running a league. Just my opinion.

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Just going to point out Gus, while that particular detail does actually make a lot of sense, it's not only the NHL that uses a salary cap. The NFL does as well, and the NBA uses a soft salary cap. The MLB has no salary cap whatsoever, instead using that luxury tax concept that really is a lot more confusing to me than a salary cap would be... It's the only one of the four major American sports leagues that doesn't use a salary cap in any way, shape, or form

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The luxury tax is a sort of soft cap. So while MLB has no real cap, the luxury tax is stiff enough that it acts like a sort of soft cap. See the Nationals last year, who refused to sign people to go over the cap so they could reset the tax penalties.

And... the players are targeting that "effective soft cap" in the next agreement.

I'm torn on the cap argument... In the NFL, the revenues are much more "all in one bucket." It's mostly in those television deals... The NFL signs television deals and gets the revenue from that... not the individual teams. Then the NFL splits that revenue equitably among the teams. In MLB, each team signs its own deal and keeps that revenue, causing a big disparity in income. (And then to further complicate matters, teams like the Yankees own the television station, too... the station that is paying the team for the broadcast rights.)

So a cap would just make the NY Yankees much more profitable... while making the players less profitable... while bringing parity to the league. Pros and cons. Removal of the cap would lead to teams spending more money... so more for the players and less for the teams... but far less parity.

For the health of baseball, there should be more parity. All my hometown buddies and I grew up cheering on the Pirates, but many of them have lost interest over the years. Meanwhile, I moved to DC and I'm enjoying the fruits of a wealthy owner in a big market.

But you can't get parity without MLB collecting and then dividing those television revenues.... Good luck getting the Yankees to agree to that! But I do think it would be good for baseball overall... And while it would hurt my new hometown team (Nats) it would really help my old hometown team (Bucs).

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When it comes to contract negotiations between MLBPA and the owners, I really liked my late friend's argument:

Owning a professional sports team should be like owning a yacht. You own it because you're rich and you enjoy it. But you don't own a yacht because it's going to make you money.

I'm not sure that was his quote, or if he got it from someone like Mark Cuban (who I could imagine saying that). But I like the general idea... some owners talk about profitability in these negotiations, but the good owners view their teams like a yacht.

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Wow... A very interesting idea, Ritz. A different concept than the ones typically accepted. And it makes a lot of sense too. But there are always going to be pros and cons involved in any major change. The goal is finding a solution that maximizes the pros and negates the cons as much as possible. But that's FAR easier said than done...

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Honestly, even though I'm a yankees fan, the MLB, in my opinion, can't survive indefinitely if the parity we have seen come about in the last 15-20 years since the Yanks' late 90's dominance, starts regressing again, and the FA chill every off-season is only going to further complicate matters. Free Agency, since it's initial inception back in 75, has slowly improved parity by making players available to any team each off-season, following the demise of that oppressive reserve clause. But with ratings down consistently the last few years, things could become a lot worse if the owners don't stop their constant money hoarding and make moves to attract more attention for the game again. I personally don't think fans want to see the top FA's in every FA class get practically ignored by their favorite teams. The owners are kinda alienating their fan base by doing so, and the $-saving tactics to preserve their wealthiness will be their undoing, as you can't sell tickets to a game if no one cares about the game anymore, and that would be a very likely scenario to occur if the owners continue to care more about their checkbook than their fans

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Also Gus I just noticed you said "porthole", when you were joking about Sol... Did you mean a portal? Or maybe a wormhole?

Or was the typical Gus-like wording used on purpose?🤨😝😂😂😂😂😂😂

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lol! Dang it!! I knew that wasn’t the right spelling when I put it down but was having a Canadian brain freeze at that moment! Portal!

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Didn't think I would catch it though huh? 😝😁😂

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Sooo...if the yankees dont spend monet like they didnt do the past 4 years on free agents, its those damn yankees. If they spend it on cole, its those damn yankees. Butlting championships, love that phrasing. Boston spent more than yankees past few years, no complaint. Doddgers for past decade spent like drunken sailors, no complaint. Leave my beloved yankees alone damn it. We have high cap usually because we have to pay our homegrown players, that was the reason for it in the late 90s early 2ks to up to mid 2010s...we had to pay posada, jeter, rivera, pettite, bernie then players we aquired through trades like tino, fast forward to esrly 2ks, we had to pay for players we traded for like arod, still had to pay jeter, posada, mo, cano......5hen we finally after the retirements of mo and jeets, we were able to reset on the fly and still we competed. Hardly any free agents on the yankees, most of our team is homegrown or we used our assets to trade for players.

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But that’s the point, goody, you don’t HAVE to pay those stars, you GET to pay those stars because you have the extra money to do so. And so do the Boston’s and the L.A.’s etc. But if K.C. or Pitt or other small market teams don’t have the money, they don’t have the luxury of holding on to their stars and signing big-name FA’s to complement them. They just have to let them go. Of course it doesn’t always work out - no guarantees that the biggest payroll gets you the ring, but it does create an unfair system. Still, that’s what we have, so no major whining or complaining from me at least, just can’t agree that it’s a fair and balanced system for all.

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It never was, Gus. But as bad as Bud Selig was as MLB Commissioner (see 1994 strike) he did at least one thing well... As then-owner of Milwaukee, a small market club, he attempted to restructure the financial workings of the MLB, and the fruits of his labor (please pardon the irony of that statement) culminated in the angels and Marlins winning it all back-to-back and even Colorado making it to the series a few years later (despite falling short). Picture it this way, no division winner from 2006 repeated the feat in 2007, a pretty improbable feat, since there are numerous scenarios that need to occur all at once for this to actually happen. So parity is still better than it ever was in the pre-FA era ending in 1975 (see NYY's dominance from the 1920's through the early 1960's for reference)

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Goodfella: I have no problem with the Yankees spending their money on players.

As Gus said, though, this part doesn't apply to my hometown Pirates: "we had to pay posada, jeter, rivera, pettite, bernie then players we aquired through trades like tino, fast forward to early 2ks, we had to pay for players we traded for like arod, still had to pay jeter, posada, mo, cano"

For the Pirates... that's Cole, and Cervelli...Daniel Hudson, Charlie Morton, and David Freese... a little further back is Brock Holt and Rajai Davis... Justin Wilson and Tony Watson... further still... Russell Martin, Mark Melancon, and Jose Bautista and still further back, Aramis Ramirez. The Pirates NEVER keep an all-star once he hits free agency... in fact they normally trade him before he hits FA.

In the rare chance they want to "win now," they don't do it via free agency like the big market teams will do... they do it by trading young guys like Austin Meadows and Tyler Glasnow for Chris Archer (whoops) instead of signing a pitcher like Archer on the FA market.

Every year, their big FA move is to sign a middling closer or two and hope he does well enough to trade him for a prospect at the deadline. (See Mark Melancon... traded to the Nationals for Felipe Rivero, who would have been traded again before free agency had he not been a complete dirtbag...)

All that said, I don't fault the Yankees (or BoSox or Dodgers or Cubs or Nationals) for anything they do. They're following the rules and giving their fans a good show, as they should. And I don't want a cap that is low enough for the Pirates to be competitive... that just moves money from the players' pockets to the owners. But a little more parity, I think, would help baseball be more interesting for much of the country. There's just no way that can happen when the TV money is controlled by the clubs. NY will always earn a ton more on their TV deal than the Pirates will earn. And that's not changing anytime soon.

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Not trying to derail this post, but are you telling me that Gerrit Cole's middle name is Freaking???

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Har har hardy har har. Bravo to bravo lol

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He prefers FREAKIN' - without the "G"........

- The Sheik