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Too many teams?


Too many teams?

One of my more noteworthy screw-ups. Even though I pretty much have 50 teams going all the time, I'm pretty good about making sure they're all set up properly and I monitor them pretty closely through the Supplemental Draft/Waivers period. At various invervals, I go through my list of teams and check for Slump Busters and Free Agent drops. Somehow I never noticed that Ozzie Smith was set at C and Chris Hoiles at SS on this team. I only caught it because I couldn't believe how poorly the team had done after 156 games. That's when I noticed that Ozzie had NO hits robbed !!!

https://www.pennantchase.com/lgRost..
The moral of this story? Double check your lineups !!

- The Absent Minded Sheik

Re: Too many teams?

Even MORE amazing is that your opponents only attempted to run on a non Catcher 16 times - that's BAD Managing

I would have a note telling me to remind me when I was playing your team and set all my speedy guys to RUN, RUN, RUN

Re: Too many teams?

When a non catcher is there teams automatically run, all speeds, no setting needed. So its really odd there was only 16.

Looking at Ozzie game log, he shows as having played SS most of the season. Looks like he played C 4 straight games mid season but thats it. But how could he have zero D? Something weird going on there.

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I have 15 teams going and it's pretty hard to control all of them!

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SERIOUSLY!! I didn't see that, I assumed he played Catcher all year- it's almost statistically impossible to have 487 chances with a 4.72 DWar and not have had a + DWAR play,

Although those 487 chances were all outs- you actually have no idea how many HITS were hit to his position, correct?

Re: Too many teams?

No - but if a guy plays completely out of position, his dWAR is just zero. If he had played 1B, 2B or 3B he would have retained his rating.

- The Sheik

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yankeebb - oddly enough, when I caught it this morning, and changed him to SS, it changed the game log. Not sure why it would do that, but it did. Maybe Guy can shed some light.

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Sounds like you got the scorekeeper on payroll, and he's willing to rewrite history for you to keep your job. Either that or you got incriminating photos...

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I just looked at Box Scores from day one and Ozzie was almost ALWAYS the starting SS in those Boxes- which makes it even more unbelievable that he had zero DWAR plays

I think your Ozzie Smith was Broken...

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And occurrences like this are EXACTLY why I try to set my initial lineups immediately after drafting every time, so I don't ever have to worry about this happening to me 🤣🤣

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I looked at couple of games in the middle of your season....

The amount of errors for Chris Hoiles playing SS just is too low...

If you pay attention to all the games, they both end up playing at their respective position every game... but they are not saving any hits.

So there is probably an auto adjust that put players to their position at the beginning of the game.... but somehow when doing so, they can't save any basehits for some reason....

Re: Too many teams?

You guys might be right here... the logic might be dropping Ozzies dwar but then maybe the CPU is fixing an invalid lineup and not resetting that dwar.

That’s an interesting edge case that I suspect doesn’t happen very often, but I can look into it.

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It's actually really weird, even with two guys playing out of Position, it's not an invalid line up - there are 9 guys -it's just that 2 are playing out of position-

An invalid line up is an EMPTY slot, like you send someone down to the Minors and don't realize he is in a Lineup making that Lineup invalid because it only has 8 guys in it.

A line up like that would have an NA at position

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Ozzie's 1st robbed hit !!

https://www.pennantchase.com/lgBoxS..

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You’re right. But I think there is some logic at the start of the game to correct an obvious mistaken lineup at Catcher. This is to avoid the crazy steals that happen. If a simple swap of positions could be made to correct a catcher issue and everyone would be at a natural position I believe the sim will do that. I haven’t looked at that code in years but I’m pretty sure that’s in there and that’s what happened here. The swap was made to correct your lineup but the dwar penalty happened before that thus Ozzie was at SS with zero dwar.

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Glad I could throw you a curve Guy 😎 I wondered about the errors too - seemed too low.

- The Sheik