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Yankees Fans Hot Stove Talk


Yankees Fans Hot Stove Talk

I wanted to start a Yankees chat! See if it generates any dialogue.
I know the Yankees want to get under the luxury tax this season. I think the Yankees make enough revenue where this should NOT be an issue. Since the Yankees being under the tax is probably happening, I am in the minority, I would prefer the Yankees NOT sign LeMahieu. I would rather they sign Andrelton Simmons and move Gleyber to 2B. Use the saved money to sign Kluber (if you feel lucky) or Taijuan Walker (if you want more certainty) + a reliever or 2.
What's Yankees fans thoughts?

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I think DJ is very important to the team, I also think that the yankees have to start making a back up play. It's looking more and more like Dj could end up in LA. I agree with the idea of moving Gleyber to 2nd and picking up Simmons. The bullpen needs help bad. If we can use Andujar and potentially a couple of prospects to pick up a number 2 starter or maybe two It'd put the Yanks in a really good spot.

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Not really in agreement regarding LeMahieu, but I will admit Simmons would definitely make an intriguing option with Torres moving to 2B again. Simmons would provide the type of top notch defense that has been celebrated for a SS for only about a century and a half...

And even the mighty Derek Jeter didn't provide that level of defense himself, not even close for that matter... He was among the worst in the game in terms of range at SS during his career

And the only issue with not resigning LeMahieu is that if he goes elsewhere, that's our loss... ESPECIALLY if he goes to a divisional rival

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I honestly have no idea what the long-term plan is right now. I’ve found their passive approach really frustrating over the last few years, and especially now since their contending window with Judge, Cole, Voit, etc in their primes is going to close soon. I don’t know if it’s Hal being cheap or Cashman trying to get too cute, but they are the Yankees, they need to stop acting like Tampa Bay and actually put some money on the line. I’m not saying they need to go back to the Big George days of throwing money at everything that moves, but how did they let the Mets get Lindor and Carasco without even making a serious offer? I’ve been a Yankee fan for 35 years and I’ve seen them be great and I’ve seen them be terrible, but right now they are just underwhelming.

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So part of the Yankees problem is that they have already dumped too much money into a few players. If you look at Stanton and Cole alone, that is almost 40% of the entire teams salary. Throw Chapman on top of that and you have close to 50% of the teams salary. These aren't contracts that are going away anytime soon, and they're going to have to at least think of paying Judge and Torres in the future.

They don't have anyone that is as good of a pure hitter as DJ along with the defensive value he provides. Unfortunately, the Yankees need DJ much more than DJ needs the Yankees. If he does go, they should probably look at Simmons or Semien, depending on what those guys are asking for.

It seems like they are trying to act like the Dodgers but they're stuck somewhere between big spenders and analytic wizards. It's good enough to win a lot of regular season games but I'm afraid the world series window is already slamming shut.

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Throwing money at players never worked. What worked was the young homegrown players getting good together. Yankees problem the last few seasons had been injuries. Whether that’s trainer or training program issue or what I don’t know.

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I like DJL but I am not really a fan of paying a 33 year old (next seasons age) $20 - $25m per for 4 or 5 years. My eye balls told me that his defense is declining, especially his range at 2B and his throws from 3B, so NYY can't have 2 subpar defenders at 2B & SS. He hit 2 HRs on the road last season. The steep decline could come very soon and I think it would be smarter to spread the money around.

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The Yankees injuries have been record breaking the past 2 seasons, especially 2019.

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I LOVE DJL @ $15m for 2 years but not $20-$25 for 4 or 5 years.... I just don't think it will work out well. I really think Gleyber needs to go to 2B.

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Another question you have to ask is what they do with the starting rotation? The bullpen certainly isn't as good as it was, but they are still solid, and there are enough explosive young arms to make it work. I don't see any number 2 starters still available as free agents, and I'm not sure an aging vet like Kluber is much of an upgrade over some of the young guys that will be competing for a spot. Maybe one of the young guys will step up, but they need to make a trade if they want a solid number 2-3 starter who can consistently get past the 5th inning and save the pen. Who they look for I have no clue, but that seems like the right direction to go.

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The biggest problem the Yankees have had over the past several years is their inability to put together a dominant rotation. For all the talk of the “Core 4,” the real secret of the 1996-2003 Yankee teams was a dominant and deep starting rotation. I think Cashman’s biggest failure of the past few years is not being aggressive enough in getting starters - either because they don’t want to pay the money (aside from Cole last season) or because they are prospect hugging (not pursuing Cole aggressively three years ago, not going after Verlander when they had the chance, etc.). They are way too invested in the bullpen and just don’t seem to be able to put together a solid and deep rotation. This is especially a problem since their minor league development system continually fails to develop top flight starters (aside from Severino) and they can’t keep anyone healthy.

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So the Yanks won't trade top prospects and probably won't spend big money to get the players that put them over the top, maybe the team stays relatively healthy and gets hot in the playoffs this season?

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I'm not confident with this team if theres not pen depth and no rotation

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Rest easy Yankee nation. I see Jhoulys Chacin got an invite to spring training....

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@ndekar, troll somewhere else lol

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DJL 6 years /$90 million, shocked, 6 years? That means 6 years of declining defense at 2B & SS, defense is not important up the middle, right? lol
Also CF defense is shaky also. This team would not win in PC. lol

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My best guess is that he could pretty easily transition to a corner infield spot. Most likely first base is where he ends up which tells me that Voit is probably not part of the long term plan. At least they can turn their focus to building a competent rotation.

What do people think about bringing Tanaka back?

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I don't think the yanks are gonna lock up all the remaining cap under the luxury in Tanaka, more likely signing KLuber and PAxton

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I think Kluber and Taijuan Walker are possibilities before Tanaka.

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The Yankees are cutting costs, they don't have enough money for a translator for Tanaka lol

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@deyanksfan - I think 6 years was to bring down the annual salary so they wouldn’t take as big a luxury tax hit.

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I understand the 6 years was to spread out the money but that means that we probably have DJ, Gleyber, Sanchez, Hicks up the middle for the majority of the next 6 years, that is not good defense. Many people say baseball is won up the middle. If you count pitching...
I guess Kluber is our projected #2 now, 1/2 a year of Severino, the rest of the rotation will be filled by Monty, German, Garcia, Schmidt, Chacin, plenty of ifs and could be's happening.
And the Yanks need 1 or 2 relievers yet.

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I don’t think Sanchez is staying. He’s been a lost cause for a while. HR or bust and bad defense. Voit should be traded while value is high, DJ to first. I like Voit but.

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I was right about Kluber, Taillon makes sense. 2 pitchers that have barely pitched the last 2 seasons, add Severino and German who have not pitched in a year. Potential but lots of uncertainty.
Should teams use a 6 man rotation this year, especially the Yankees, maybe start Cole on normal 4 days rest.
I hope that we did not trade Ottavino + Frank German (top 30 prospect) so that we can pay Garder too much. If Gardner wants to sign for a mil or 2, ok. I do not see him getting much more than that from any team, don't bid against yourself. I would love to see the Yanks sign Joc or Puig first. Pederson vs RHPs, especially in Yankee stadium and Puig trying to build his value!
Probably need 2 relievers now. Does Cressey know any recuperating relievers, lol?

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Alex Colome would be a nice signing, Would love to see Joc Pederson.

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I remember a couple years ago there was talk about how they should try two starters in a game. With this rotation you could try it with guys like Garcia and King. See if you can get 4 innings or so from each to help out the pen. No idea if they would try it but they have enough arms to do it.

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I am not sure what the Yanks will do but I am not sure with this starting staff, I am not sure they can treat it just as a normal rotation besides Cole, they might let Kluber pitch on regular rest because he is only signed for one year. A shorter season could be a good thing for the Yanks.