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Slump Buster specifics


Slump Buster specifics

More just a curiosity - I know the site indicates a “20% stat boost,” but am curious to know exactly which stats are affected by the formula for both batters and pitchers. Is EVERY stat improved by 20% across the board, or is it more targeted to address the specific way a player is underperforming, i.e. avg/obp for batters?

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BUMP = Inquiring minds want to know,

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I'm pretty sure its just a bump on your basic rates, (AVG, OBP, SLG, H9, BB9, K9, perhaps FLD%, not certain), things like Speed, dWAR, EN, Stamina, I don't believe they are affected. Fire, I'm not certain either way on that one.. Guy? Yankee?

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Think it’s what Jay said, but not FLD. Just hitting/pitching stats, not defense, speed, stamina

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I'm thinking "Fire" for sure - try slump busting a low average, high fire guy like McGwire or Sosa and see what happens.

- The Sheik

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Yeah, as I think about it, Matt Olson, McGwire, I have an ever progressing Rhys Hoskins in one league with over 30 Fire now...He is an absolute beast. Without Slump Bust.,,I'd have to think Fire gets a boost as well.

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MATT OLSON! You have summoned the beast of AVILA back from hell!

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In my HUMBLE opinion, Slump Bust is too heavily weighted in favor of hitting, a starting Pitcher gets to take advantage of it 17 times in 30 days maybe 16 if an off day is taken into consideration - a hitter can use it 90 times in that same 30 Days - it's VERY unfair to pitchers -

Does it work every time? NO but out of those 90 games, More than 1/2 a season by the way, it probably impacts 65 or so - That is a Huge disparity.

I know the argument that says "haven't you ever seen a guy go on a an absolute tear for like 2-3 weeks and carry his club?"

Yes I have but not for over half a season - and if you put a guy in Slump Bust when he's hitting say .200, after 3 games, over two days, and he is up to .212, you can re-start Slump bust - same with Pitching by the way.

It's honestly the 1 thing I would like to see eliminated - it has FAR too much influence over a game and if the Slump Busted Hitter or Pitcher also gets FIRE, it's all over -It frankly throws all the research and team building on actual stats out the window in favor of forced offense.

Lot's of owners complain that Hitters almost never perform to their actual Stats, which of course they shouldn't, they are facing the Top tier of Pitchers everyday and their results should be worse than normal because they don't get to face the #4 and #5 Starters on Teams -and that's where they do the lion's share of their Damage.

It's nowhere as bad for Pitchers, instead of having 2 or maybe 3 easy spots in a lineup ( and BTW, the SIM does not take into effect that NL Pitchers get to face a Pitcher and should fare WORSE than AL pitchers in PC, because AL pitchers face a GOOD Hitter in the Pitchers spot, every day) they have MAYBE 1 or 2 easy outs at best in Regular season. One extra good hitter against a good pitcher does not make as much difference as 9 Good hitters against a BAD pitcher does.

But that's my opinion and it's probably an unpopular one. It won't stop me from playing - except certain years like Best of 2017

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Sure, that’s why Auto League SB was changed from all season to 30 days, but it is still over half a season. It’s ehy most custom leagues limit it to 5 days. As for batter vs pitcher, not sure I agree with the argument. The batter plays more games, but only bats 4-5 times per game. The starting pitcher only plays every 5th game, but pitches against every batter in that game. Really works out to the same number of AB, or even more.

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Good points but Slump Buster for SP only effects up to 17 GAMES. not Batters, GAMES - It doesn't matter how many batters cause they are all in a single Game. you can only win a game once.

I would MUCH rather have a positive effect on 60+ games than 16-17

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I can see both sides of this one. It would be interesting to see, out of those 16-17 games that an SP is on Slump Buster, how many games he actually won vs how many he would normally have won if not on Slump Buster (say a guy who is historically pretty even in wins and losses goes 15-2 in Slump Buster. Then that's an extra 7 or 8 wins you could attribute to him. That's pretty huge. Just a theoretical example, of course). And at the same time, it would be interesting to see what a hitter's Slump Buster's effect was on the team's games. Impossible to quantify, but would be interesting to see if a team that was generally around .500 all of a sudden went 50-10 over that period. And looking back on that players' statline in each game of that period, how many of those wins did he actually have a marked effect on.

I'm guessing it would actually work out pretty evenly, the pitcher and the hitter probably affect the outcome of a similar number of games over that timespan. I could be wrong though (I often am!!)

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I bet that pitcher wins more games than the hitter. But yeah, we can all agree it’s a lot.

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It would of course be tough to prove or quantify, but just to give one small example, I recently had a pitcher go 2-5 with 8 ERA. On slump bust he went 8-1 and finished with ERA in the 5s. The loss was when he came in relief as I ran out of pitchers. His no decisions were all wins (before and after) so not including them. Let’s say he helped us win 5 extra games due to SB. He was on for about a 60 game period. This can’t even count how it helped him go deeper in games and spared bullpen for next game. I found a recent hitter I had on SB for 15 games, and I found 4 where he accounted for more runs than we won by. But can’t say he’d have done nothing without SB, so really hard to put a number on it. Anyway, just a recent example.