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Game 7 D-Backs vs Yankees 2001...


Game 7 D-Backs vs Yankees 2001...

I am currently watching game 7 D-Backs vs Yanks 2001...

Schilling vs Clemens in a WS game 7... can't get any better...

While looking at that game, How can the HOF doors keep shuting down on Schilling ???? + He will run a sequal with is bloody sock couple years later...

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having lived through Schill in Philly, the name says it all. He was a drama queen fraud. He's carried over into his post baseball life as well.

Very good talent but HOF? No.

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If Mussina is in... well Schilling was a way more dominant... very few guys would stand toe to toe with Smoltz, Clemens, Martinez, Johnson, Maddux... Schlling was quite up there...


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philly guy too, post baseball life... ugh -- towel overhead always a bad look - wild thing you make my heart... hurt - don't think? in will be in HoF

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The 2001 World Series was the event that truly got me into baseball. So many great storylines: the underdog expansion D-Backs taking on the Evil Empire. Randy Johnson mowing down batters like they were little leaguers. Miguel Batista's masterful pitching performance. And of course, Luis Gonzalez's broken bat bloop against the legendary Rivera to win it all.

Amazing stuff!

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As a Phils fan, I was appreciative of Schill's efforts in '93, especially in the postseason, but yes, the towel showed us the spoiled brat side of Schilling. He's been apart of 3 storied postseason runs for 3 separate franchises, and pound for pound, his postseason numbers are up there with legends, his lifetime K:BB is pretty impressive, among other stats as well. He was definitely in the upper echelon of pitcher's for a solid decade plus, but, I never thought he was a HoF'er though. Of course I never thought Jack Morris or Mike Mussina or Harold Baines were either so..

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Yeah but schilling in game performance was so much in a different plane than mussina, baines and Morris. Heck even Messina was on a different plane than baines and Morris. And schilling was better than him. Oh and screw jack morris. I hate that guy

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Schilling with less innings,has +10 WAR over Smoltz, a better whip... more wins + he would of pile up a lot more wins if he pitched for the Braves...

Schilling's stats are standing toe to toe with Smoltz's, and are even better not considering couple of season Smoltz pitched as a reliever...

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Schilling never has known when to shut his pie hole and his attacks on writers were ill advised - some of whom were HOF voters. My personal feeling is that he's borderline, like Mussina, but without the likeability.

- The Sheik

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Smoltz was a much better teammate that Schilling could ever be.

Schilling was a cancer in Philly. Since we don't change much as adults, I imagine he was a similar **** with his teammates in Arizona, Boston and Baltimore.

Towel on the head in Philly...fake bloody sock in Boston. Not sure what self-serving gimmick he used in Arizona to make it all about him.

I wish he would stop showing up for the veteran's weekends in Philly.

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It is what you do between the white lines that count. If you exclude people for being a jerk, then you will have to remove Ty Cobb.

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How you are as a teammate definitely occurs between the white lines.

It goes a bit beyond pure numbers. It all impacts the team and game.

Now his politics, as divisive as they are, should not be a factor. His overall jerkitude during games/seasons should.

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Not seeing the point, if players play poorly because of their teammate then that is on them, they are professionals, I have never heard a player say, i did not play well or gave less than 100% because i dislike my teammate.
The A's of the early 70's many did not like each other, the won 3 straight championships. Reggie Jackson created alot turbulence in the Yankee clubhouse and they won 2 straight.
If the player is good enough stat wise to be in the HOF, then he belongs, excluding him because the way he acted off the field should not be an issue.

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No - what matters is the writers who are voting, and if you're on the margin and they hate your guts, you ain't getting in. Cobb was a complete ass, but he was not marginal.

- - The Sheik

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funny that shiek calls schilling like mussina but without the likability. as a new yorker i am 100% certain that the media disliked mussina. Michael Kay (announcer for the Yankees) talks about it all the time how much Mussina was not a favorite of the media

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As some one, who was just getting into to baseball at this time. Schilling belongs in the HOF. Shouldn’t matter what he says. He’s got the benchmark stats you need. Just further proof, of what happens when you go against PC principle.

Kinda mirrors the same problem of the virus... Remember when the writers/media/politicians said suspended travel does not stop a virus, it is racist..

“It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought, without accepting it.” ~Aristotle

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mvnv4 - did Mussina ever put out a meme with the caption “Rope. Tree. Journalist. Some Assembly Required” ? Baeball writers are journalists - if you need their votes to get into the HOF, how likely is that to happen if you pull sh_t like this? It falls under the heading of "Cut your nose off to spite your face". Does he have the right to use this kind of social commentary? Of course he does - but payback is a female dog.

- The Sheik

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Oh I wasn’t aware social media post were a criteria for getting into the HOF. Must have missed that one.

What you say is true sheik.. But we shouldn’t be alright with it.

It explains the problem with the world. It’s not what you do, it’s about what you say. It’s antithetical to the basic premise of “actions speak louder than words”.

How many great minds would our world have lost based off today’s “standards”? Not saying Schilling is a great mind, but performer yes. Particularly when the pressure is on, hence his postseason numbers.

Now if anybody wants to argue his numbers, that’s a different story, but we all know it’s about his comments. Meanwhile, nobody is allowed to go after the cheaters... Words over actions once again.

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Words are actions - and like all actions, they have consequences.

Look, if someone wants to be a "tell it like it is" super edgy rebel, go for it. But don't expect everyone to gape in awe at your incisive, courageous commentary. People aren't going to sit there and let you flog them. They're going to fight back, and if an opportunity for revenge comes up...well....

Schilling was a tool, by all reports, and now he's paying for it - as he should.

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Everyone has gone after the cheaters. The cheaters aren’t in the Hall yet either.

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Using a music analogy: Cross Mariah Carey with Milli Vanilli and you pretty uch got Schilling.

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Despite all of this Schilling will make the HOF on the next vote, the last vote he was at 70%. Plus, he is better than several that are already in.