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Crane/Astros/Manfred Look Even Worse


Crane/Astros/Manfred Look Even Worse

What a horrendous press conference yesterday! Crane is a moron and an ****. How can he say what his team did, did not have any impact on results of games? Give me a break! They won a Game 7 to get to the World Series and a Game 7 to win the World Series. If they were not cheating, I truly believe they would not have won either series. The smugness of the owner and players is extremely disappointing. I am going to thoroughly enjoy watching how much hatred they receive this year.
Also, Manfred really screwed up with the penalties levied against the Astros. Clearly, they should have been more severe. I wish they would have exposed all of the teams/players involved and given them at least 54 game suspensions. Make them miss at least a third of the season. Thoughts?

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Agree completely! It was hard enough to watch my Dodgers lose in 7; but to then learn it was to cheaters is even more disappointing!

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yankees lost twice thanks to the ASTROS

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I wish they would have taken away their world series title, because they didn't, only the manager and GM get impacted

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But think about it, when does the MLB ever be proactive to that level? You think the player's union would allow that? They probably would view as a tactic to devalue the players on that team. Granted I would thoroughly ENJOY myself to watch those a**holes get what they deserve (Yankees fan so yeah I'm biased. I also don't care). But I don't see it happening, and it infuriates me that the players who started it get off scot free but the manager who was against it (albeit didn't stop it either) gets the shaft. Houston is just too arrogant and cocky for their own good, and the goo of the MLB. But nothing has, nor will ever, be done ๐Ÿ˜•

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You know what? @#$% y'all! I've commented on here for years about my hatred for the modern-day Astros and everything their organIzation represents. And what did I get for it? Mocked, called out, made a figure of fun. And, lo and behold, I was right- and the lot of you turn on a dime and suddenly are anti-Astros to your very core because now it is bloody convenient? "Fickle" doesn't begin to cover it, hop off the bandwagon now, you aren't welcome.

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Sorry NAP feels this way, did not know the history on this site. I have not been posting here very long, and nearly everything has been about PC.
Can you imagine this happening in the 60s and these players having to face Gibson or Drysdale. Plus the extra hard slides they would be receiving at 2nd or home.
Glad to hear the players come out strongly against the astro players.
Should be interesting once the games start.

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Who knows, maybe the players will channel their inner mid-century selves and really make the Astros players regret their actions. Now THAT is something all non-Houston and non-Boston fans would LOVE to see lol (yeah maybe the Sox will suffer the same treatment. A man can dream ๐Ÿคฃ)

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Nobody knows the history of what Nap feels about the Astros. Why would we?

I don't know how I feel about every team in the League, or know my own history of writing about teams on a chat board. How in the world would any of us have a recollection of Nap's feelings on any subject?

I know Gus likes the Twins. I know raiderbill likes the Raiders. Gbacci is a White Sox fan. I know yankeebb likes the Yankees. I know AlyCat is a Cardinals fan. I know Sheik and DukeBlues bleed Dodger blue. I know Slater likes the Phillies. I know mcvn likes the Braves. I know joshanddez roots for the Chiefs in football and Boston in baseball because he tries to mis-direct his emotional center. I know ih8jhawks is a Chiefs fan and really does not like Kansas.

There. Tapped out.

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JUDGE FOR 2017 MVP!!!!!!

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European Football has it right. Manchester City gets caught cheating and they are banned for TWO years. They will lose millions in revenue and will lose players and their manager.

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When are we going to get over this? They cheated. MLB took action. That's the end of the story. No, I'm not an Astros fan, but let's just get on with the season.
I listen to a ton of sports talk on the radio, but lately, I just shut it off. I so sick of listening to people cry that their team lost to the Astros. The sign stealing wasn't the deciding factor in the playoffs. Take a look at 2017. They were a better team on the road.

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Not sure if it's true or not, but there was a rumor floating around for a while that they were finding a way to cheat on the road in 2017 too. But again it was only a rumor so don't quote me on that... It may be true or it may be a complete lie. Guess we'll never know for sure...
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*shrugs*

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Definitely not the end of the story. It was a big deal so like any big deal, it will be talked about to death, then more info comes out and the cycle starts over.

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Isn't there still an investigation going on about the Red Sox or did I dream that.

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new astros mgr dusty baker is calling for suspensions for anyone that throws at the astros. seriously stay out of this argument dusty, its kryptonite

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Baseball4ever I certainly hope to God that they are still investigating them too. They had the ringleader from Houston as their MANAGER in 2018... They should be under scrutiny as much as anyone and should be investigated for possible cheating that year. If they already are done with nothing said to the public, this will infuriate me to no end

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A lot of pressure on the astro players this year, any player that struggles or even performs slightly below the previous years will be looked at, right or wrong, as a player that needed cheating to do well. Every ballpark they play in they will be hearing cheater, cheater, cheater.

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This registers zero on the sympathy scale. They deserve what comes there way...and much more in my opinion. Hard to believe that with a 'system' in place on that team that there are players would not utilize it, since they would certainly look for competitive advantages to get/stey in the lineup. In the slim chance they were not directly involved, they were complicit in that they remained silent while this obvious wrongdoing was occurring right in front of them. If players receive stiff penalties for using PED's to gain an advantage, they should be held accountable here as well. The counter argument would be PED usage is clear via positive testing results, as opposed to definitve direct involvment here...but as I argued earlier here...all are guilty to some extent. 20 game minimum suspension, significantly longer for those who can be proven to have participated directly. Management?? Consider lifetime ban. Pete Rose? Shoeless Joe? But not these jokers?? Here's hoping they are lambasted when on the road.

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I agree 100%. What they did was blatant. They will always be remembered as team that cheated to win WS!

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The Astros can all eat sh_t and die.

- The Sheik

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Sheik I couldn't say it better myself!

And I agree whatever they have coming to them they deserve tenfold (and another 10 tenfolds as well) ๐Ÿ˜ 

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Astros cheated in '17, cheated in '18 - if you think they suddenly had a "come to Jesus" moment in '19 and quit - well, you should probably rethink that ๐Ÿ˜‰

My question is, did Charlie Morton say anything to his TB team mates? Glasnow got lit twice early by the Astros in their playoff series including game 5. Interestingly, Morton pitched well in game 3.........

- The Sheik

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Cheating in 2017 is not the reason the team won the Series. The team was loaded with hitting and pitching. Other fans are ticked off because their teams lost to them. They fired the GM and manager, paid 5 mil, and lost draft picks. Integrity of the game? That was lost with the steroid cheaters... Itโ€™s Spring Training, letโ€™s play ball already....

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Just let people be mad Steve... Definitely not the right thread to be giving people a hard time about being angry at the Astros.