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Baseball is A Great Game


Baseball is A Great Game

so why do the powers that be keep messing with it,the new rule saying a relief p has to face 3 batters is stupid.baseball is timeless .leave it alone

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The answer is in your words. Baseball is timeless, the world of entertainment is on a clock.

Competing for TV dollars means putting a product on the field that will keep viewers from changing the channel... or streaming a movie... or watching YouTube... or checking out Facebook or Instagram... and on and on.

Pitching changes for every batter takes time. Having a pitcher throw to at least three hitters is going to make the game more interesting, slightly shorter, and more prone to scoring.


Baseball should evolve. Making decisions only for the diehard fans is the fastest way to lose casual fans.

PC is a simulation of baseball, but PC is also (like baseball) a small business. Gbacci makes decisions all the time, as he should, that aims for the widest user base instead of just the maniacs who play 50 leagues.

If having a pitcher throw to at least three batters is a big change for some fans, those fans are going to go berserk when computers become umpires, calling balls and strikes.

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Lol at Raging's "instead of just the maniacs who play 50 leagues."

Hey I resemble, I mean, I resent that remark ! ;)

I do think it's pointless to add the rule here though. We don't have commercial breaks. We don't have to wait for every RP to take his warm-up pitches, and truthfully I don't know too many successful owners that use "alternate between LH/RH" as a winning strategy. It tends to burn you as opposed to helping. Most owners aren't trying to burn their entire bullpen game in and game out..

Just my two cents..

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I want PC game-play rules to match the modern game's rules whenever possible. If gbacci can figure out the 3 -batter minimum, I'm all for it.

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what about intentional walks not using any pitches?

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The people who wouldn't "leave the great game of baseball alone" were the overbearing managers/GMs et al that introduced the idiotic concept of rostering a pitcher whose entire skill set is limited to getting one batter out in the first place.

Now you want to complain that the snowflakes may be required to pitch to a minimum of (gasp!) three batters?!?! Really? Maybe we should we have 27 pitchers, one for each out, right- I'm sure you would love that idea.

If anything the rule doesn't go nearly far enough - barring inury, teams should be limited to four pitchers in a nine-inning game, two more if the game goes to extra innings

NB Cy Young just rolled over in. his grave.

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I generally like the rule, but I'm disappointed they are starting the three-batter minimum in the year Joe Maddon has Shohei Ohtani on his team.

I would have loved to see Ohtani playing first with, say, Andrew Heaney pitching. When Heaney's pitch count got pretty high, Maddon has him and Ohtani switch places for a right-handed batter. Ohtani gets him out, and then he and Heaney switch back for the lefty. Heaney gets the lefty out and a righty comes up, so they swich again for Ohtani to close out the inning.

Hopefully Maddon can get creative some other ways... perhaps we see the first game played without a DH in the AL since.... who knows when.

MrBubbles... to your original point... instituting a 3-batter minimum, in my mind, actually will make the game look a lot more like it's been played throughout history, except for the last dozen years with all of the "lefty specialist" stuff that has become popular.

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3 batters is no biggie. But the real solution is fewer commercials. Having a max of 2 per half inning would shave 20 min off each game. Problem solved.

Fewer commercials = more fans. Obviously.

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And fewer commercials = less money for the money hoarding owners. Obviously

Therein lies the problem 🤔

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lefty specialist been there for years... Jesse Orosco, Paul Assenmacher, Dan Plesac, Pedro Borbon, John Candelaria, Mike Stanton, Javier Lopez, Alen Embree, Randy Choate, Arthur Rhodes,

The loogy ( lefty one out guy ) is at the core of baseball strategy for decades when games are on the line in the 7th or 8th inning...

They are the main reason for Baseball to be the greatest sport in playoffs, they been raising the dramatics of a playoff game for years...

Main problem now, is letting the teams working around their lineups, injury list.... and carrying so many relievers through the course of a season...

They should just limit the amount of relievers eligible for a specific period of time and forcing teams to carry a minimum amount of position players and maximum amount of pitchers. This will force them to limit those c ountless pitching changes through games, and elect for some more durable and various type of relievers....

As strategy been almost extinct from the game, they've just removed another part of it...

This game use to be such a great strategic game...but now its been all about pounding the strike zone with an 100mph fastball and swinging for the fence...

Obviously each Era have their tendencies, and turnaround are made overtime, I just hope that in short period of time, value will be giving back again to hitting the ball the other way, stolen bases, hit and runs, bunting, hitters taking advantage of defenses positioning, crafty pitching....

Nowaday, it looks like they ve been putting in the trashcan all the skills that made players like Boggs, Gwynn, Rose, Dykstra, Maddux, Drabek so special...

Maybe Its just me being too nostalgic or getting too old early...

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Plpl, couldn't agree more. Too bad it will never happen...

*Shrugs*

Baseball is digging its own grave. If it is to survive, it will be up to them to not jump head-first into it

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PLPL: Good point that the lefty specialist "has been there for years." I don't necessarily disagree... I think you cover my thoughts in the next section of your post:

"Main problem now, is letting the teams working around their lineups, injury list.... and carrying so many relievers through the course of a season...

They should just limit the amount of relievers eligible for a specific period of time and forcing teams to carry a minimum amount of position players and maximum amount of pitchers. This will force them to limit those c ountless pitching changes through games, and elect for some more durable and various type of relievers...."

So the "lefty specialist" has been around for awhile... it just wasn't used very often in the regular season, because it COULDN'T really be used. It wasn't a sustainable method of management.

I think, as you said, that limiting roster sizes/moves would accomplish the same goal, but there's a "player health" argument in there that would win the day.

I don't particularly like the arbitrary feeling of the "3 batter minimum," but I think it results in more of an "old school" style of play that would be similar to the result of your proposal.

I wish they would NOT use this rule in the playoffs... There has (almost?) never been a complaint of a playoff baseball game lasting too long because of late-inning pitching changes in a close game!

I might complain about the starting time, but I'm staying up and watching all 4 hours regardless!

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The real culprit for long games is the insane amount of time between pitches. Both batters and pitchers act like they just finished a 200-meter dash after every pitch. It's tedious to watch.

If you have 250 pitches in a game, and you shave 5 seconds off per pitch, you just made the game 20 minutes shorter.

The problem isn't the minimum batter rule (or lack thereof). I read an article that basically concluded it saved only a few minutes at best.

As for PC, why can't it just be a toggle switch, on/off, whether to include the rule (at least for custom leagues)?

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That would actually make a lot of sense. People who are in support of it can use it, probably for realism or whatever reason, and those who are against it can reject it. That is a very good idea. Guy, take note!

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Personally I dislike the shift more than the 3 batter minimum.

I have season tickets to the Sugar Land Skeeters in the Atlantic League and they have eliminated the shift by using a white line from 2nd base to the edge of outfield grass. If you can't eliminate the shift then I think teams should start bunting the heck out of the ball to make them honest again. But the pressure to win 100 games is all about the money - it is the money that is changing the game.

2nd I have watched the impact of Trackman and frankly it isn't a distraction and you really don't realize it is active.

Eliminate the shift and introduce the ROBOT UMP -

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The important thing is Joe Maddon doesn’t like this rule, and he’s smarter than all of us. Just ask him.

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Maddon is so smart that he became manager of the Los Angeles Angels - who don't play in Los Angeles or even Los Angeles County. I hope he doesn't show up at Dodger Stadium his 1st day at work ;-)

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