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Hello guy, I hate to pass this along but in the league “1969 MLB season” the commissioner is editing his own players. When this starts it ruins the integrity of the game for this new players joining. The vice commissioner is working hard but he is getting ready to leave. The commissioner who is cheating is elgoato, the vice commissioner who is reputable although his name may be misleading is poopdeck. Just thought I would give you a heads up. Possibly have poopdeck take over. Just my 2 cents, sorry for wasting your time. Thanks for listening.

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Do you know what he is actually changing? Have others in the league reach out to me directly with details.

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That's the danger of charging guys $20 to be a commish.
Since $ is invested it encourages these guys to cheat
That is still a poor decision

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The $20 charge has mostly eliminated cheating. It was awful before the paywall. People willing to cough up money to commish are almost always people of higher integrity... the more likely issue is when commissioners retire and hand the league off to someone who has not paid.

At any rate, any confirmed cheating results in a ban of commish duties across the website.

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Any change to any player's stats shows up in Transactions, so changing a player's Real Stats (cheating) isn't really possible to hide. Changing a contract can be done without anyone knowing, but not changing Real Stats.

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are they like changing the player teams so thier team can be stacked

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is the commish ELOGATO cuz if it is we wanted to be commish in a league that almost collapsed but i saved tgink i jojned it

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Where does it show up in Transactions. ( I am in the league with Ulster ). All I see is

1/28/2020 Player edited
Banks, Ernie edited by ELGOATO. Contact your commish for further details.
How can I see what was changed for Mr.Cub ?

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i guess we just confront him

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In that league Carl Yastremski was edited and now has a .166 AVG but he is still a 100 rank on average?? That is so weird

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The rank won't change until the Commissioner goes in to Adjust Stat Levels.

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Not in that league but I looked when the post first started . Commish has two teams and edited a player on each. One had monster compiled stats so I can only imagine. By the time I looked the vice had already edited them back (or worse). Not a single comment about it in the chat either. Seems like a disaster though.

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What I didn’t do anything

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I didn’t change any ranks

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Any I didn’t edit any of my own player and I only edited mr.cubs age

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In the future, it may be better to send out an LM to tell everyone what you're doing, and say that you're going to edit the age of a player "tomorrow", so if someone wants to check they can check before you do it and after.

Just my two cents.

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Thanks I appreciate that I just people to I wasn’t cheating

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Again, I’m not in that league but you definitely edited your players Yaz and Narvaez. I have no idea what you did, could’ve been innocent, but to say you didn’t edit players on your teams is wrong. Banks isn’t on your team so what you should be answering is what did you do with Yaz and Narvaez.


1/29/2020 Player edited
Yastrzemski, Carl edited by ELGOATO. Contact your commish for further details.
1/28/2020 Player edited
Banks, Ernie edited by ELGOATO. Contact your commish for further details.
1/28/2020 Player edited
Banks, Ernie edited by ELGOATO. Contact your commish for further details.
1/28/2020 Player edited
Narvaez, Omar edited by ELGOATO. Contact your commish for further details

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Oh yeah I forgot about those they didn’t have any owar or dwar so I was seeing what was wrong

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Two of them have some oddities in their real stats:
-Omar Narvaez, edited 1/28/2020, has an OPS of .724, but it's ranked at 98
-Carl Yastrzemski, edited 1/31/2020, has a BA of .166, OBP of .287, and an OPS of .516, yet all are 100 ranked

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I don’t know what happens there

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I’ll drop them or trade them if that makes you guys happy

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What would make me happy is some real answers about why their stats are messed up like that not long after you and your vice commish edited them

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And also I (and several others I would assume) would like an explanation as to why Ulster, the one who made the original complaint, has been removed from his team

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That is the truth

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Because I don’t want people in my league who don’t respect me

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That's a really bad look booting somebody who's made a complaint about your actions as commissioner. In real life, there are laws that protect employees from being fired (or they're supposed to work that way anyway) if they make a complaint about their boss' actions

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If you have a problem take it up with my vice he’s been helping me run it for a while now

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Are you trying to shift the blame or something? You haven't given a straight answer to any of the questions asked of you. I've already quit the league, if you want to avoid more owners doing the same, I'd suggest you spill the beans about what exactly happened

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whos your vice

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Poop deck and I did answer your questions

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Extremely vaguely.

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yeah lets all leave the league until you fix all of this

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I always say, you have to vote with your feet first and foremost. I can’t babysit every league, I would never have the time. It’s frustrating when you put time into a custom league only to have to wind up leaving. But sadly that just happens sometimes. Thankfully we have far fewer commish issues with the paywall than we did years ago.

I don’t know what’s going on here but at best it sounds like some immaturity on the commish side to be editing players and not telling the league why.

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I have placed poopdeck back in if he’s still interested, if the league hasn’t already been lost at this point. Commissioners that inherit a league and then ruin it cannot be commissioners again unless they want to pay for the privilege.

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if you want respect you have to give it. Changing stats and wiping out a league with zero communication is disrespectful to the owners

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i never left elgato booted me

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It's none of my business because I am not in that League and have no specific knowledge -BUT the Commissioner of that League " ELGOATO" does not even seem to have the needed experience or time at this site to even be running a League.

I have been here almost 2 years and don't know how good a job I would do as a commissioner and as a result, haven't tried it yet. - he has no practical experience whatsoever - and also seems to have an issue about being honest when confronted about what appear to be underhanded doings.

These issues would seem to contraindicate him being a League Commissioner. But again, it's not my business

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I've been here almost 2 years and can't even begin to imagine running one of these complicated custom leagues.

I created 2 basic custom leagues, to teach me and other players how to make the leap from an Auto league to Advanced Custom leagues. I figured if I don't understand some of them, I'm not the only one.

LOTS to learn in this game. Like the value of dWar... Had no idea it was worth so much!!!

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Running a league a lot of work especially when I try to fix and help things and people start a board to talk trash about me. I have tried to get that league off the ground after I took it over after edger need help the league was no where close to set up and had three owner and when we just finished to first season I trusted poop to be my vise and help me and ulter and the just kicked me out my own league