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Temp ban of the savages


Temp ban of the savages

I'm giving the savage bros a break from the boards. I don't think they're bad kids, but it's gotten way past the point of being spammy by responding to every thread. While I want the boards to be a place for fans to chat, it's not helpful to have one sentence posts on every single thread. No one person needs to be responding to every thread, either... it makes it difficult to engage in the worthy conversations that do happen.

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Whoops! My fault. I’ve been posting a lot recently, didn’t realize that we weren’t supposed to reply to every message. I’ll tone it down. Thanks for the info and doing the right thing!

-gordo

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Gordo, you don't strike me as over-posting and your posts have substance. You're fine.

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Sorry Guy, i think i;ve been overposting lately as well...

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Ok, thanks. I like that i’ve been more involved in the PC community!

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Thank you, Guy. It was getting exhausting and checking the boards was like weeding through spam.

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Thank you !!!!

- The Sheik

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I want to quickly say, nobody else has to worry that they are posting too much. If you’ve seen the volume and lack of substance of JWB’s posts recently you’ll understand this was a unique case. The boards should be a fun place to post, but when every thread was covered with a one-liner of little substance by the same person, it’s a problem.

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Thank you ! Nothing like adding nothing just to be noticed. This generation makes no sense to me. Lol

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Haha a generation all depends on how the generation before them brings them up sooo

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I think a time out was necessary, but but the kid(s) was/were probably just bored. A lot of adults are bored at the moment. A lot of his stuff was nonsense, and he (they?) certainly have a lot to learn about the site if they are ever going to be successful here, but while their activity on the boards was annoying, I don't think they did anything on the boards to cause any real damage. I know I got frustrated with the savage bros in some leagues just like others did (left a league over it) , but let's cut him (them?) a little slack on their number of posts. There are a lot worse things they could be doing than posting on here.

I am NOT condoning their actions in leagues, and if there is cheating going on it needs to be addressed, but maybe this will be a wake up call for them and they can learn from their mistakes and move forward. I know a lot of you have offered them guidance, and that is what they are going to continue to need. Let's remember that when they are allowed back on. We all did stupid stuff when we were younger as well. And let's also not label an entire generation, or generations, based on one or two individuals.

Socrates - Children; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room, they contradict their parents and tyrannize their teachers. Children are now tyrants.

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Why should we respect you when you clearly don’t respect us...

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It's an 'US' thing now...interesting when 'savage' brothers (anyone who has ever found his youtube page know their actual last name) were the only one's mentioned in the post.

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I took the bait and viewed that YouTube page....no way that 'Jack' is on PC - can't be more than 5 years old...

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Dandy, considering how you've carried yourself on this site, mainly the way you started, deserves little respect. You don't get to act disrespectful and then blame it on your age. Don't use it as an excuse. That's a thing I remember you doing. People on this site will go above and beyond to help out newer players and younger guys on the site, and all that's asked is to listen to them. I started on this site in 2014, I was 13 at the time. I doubt most people on the site could tell that though, because I didn't act 'like my age', as most kids on this site seem to do nowadays.

You want respect? You have to earn it. Respect is a two way street. No one is perfect, and mistakes will be made along the way. But you have to show that you learn from those mistakes, and that goes for what you do, what you say, and how you say it. I will say that you have seemed to learn a bit from when you first joined. However, you come across as arrogant and confrontational a lot, and don't like to be countered with someone else's thoughts. After a while of constantly seeing this, it's gotten really tiresome to watch for me, and I know others as well. That's why I've become more vocal on it, constantly seeing it makes me want to stay away from it, and I love this site. Got to confront it at some point.

Sorry for the tirade here. People here are willing to help and be your friend and will give you respect, but your start on the site broke that respect almost instantly, and it takes time to earn it back. Don't take it too personally if possible, everyone had their moments, including myself. You have to be willing to listen and show respect yourself though.

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Truly amazing, that what was supposed to be a most welcome respite from savage garden, actually turned into a thread of some of the usual suspects that fuel the fire creating more drama

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LOL, So I can blame my parents and elders for how I am. No accountability here!
Look. Respect is something you give, not expect. You give it wether you get it our not. If we all lived that way, everyone would be respected.
I am not responsible for how others behave or speak. I am responsible for me and how I behave. No one makes me behave badly. I will not give that control to another person to have over me.
The problem is we react to others instead of responding. I wont blame another for my behavior. It is mine. Self control is just that. Dont give it away.

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Just to inform everybody, baby yoda has two “brothers”. One named HarryPotter. Yoda is now leaving the site as he was caught cheating again!

hopefully this is useful
-gordo

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smh. cheating on a free sim site. What kind of low self esteem must one have to cheat here? You aren't impressing yourself because you know you cheated. Ant praise is false and you know it. Must be my generations fault.

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babyyoda
baseballdude
HarryPotter

All seemed to be tied together...interesting trades between yoda & HP in two leagues (they are in all the same custom leagues togehter); baseballdude is only in one league.

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congrats to gbacci hes caught ukwildkat,annabeth,barbwasher,bpenn77,machallift all of them have been banned from trading with each other as they are colluders and we will remember these names

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Yeah, Yoda made a second account to try and renew his rep on the site. Here is what he said in a message to the league he is commish of.

Hi there everyone -

I guess it's about time I come clean. I'm not who you think I am. I have cheated before, and cheated again, duping my brothers (harrypotter, baseballdude) out of trades in another league. I have been proud to serve you guys as commish, but I believe I will most likely be booted from the site. I have agreed to hand over the league to harrypotter, who has avidly watched me in PC and joined recently, but knows the ropes. He, in my eyes, is the good of me without the worst of me. once again, thank you guys for being so supportive and kind, I will forever be greatful. If there are any messages you have sent to me in the past few days, please just send them to harrypotter since he will be taking over commish duties.

For the last time, thank you all, and unfortunately, goodbye:(

Signing off,
babyyoda

How can someone who "just joined" know the ropes to commish? this is all very fishy to me and I don't trust him... If he knows the ropes, then how did he get duped out of multiple trades with his "brother"? This is very obvious Yoda does not have any sibling on the site.

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My brother and I have been talking about this, and he understands that there has to be reprocussions for his actions. He understands if he will be in fact booted from the website, that he deserved it. But he has also said that he would be more than happy to stay on PC if Guy is willing to give him another chance (again).

I know the ropes of the site because I saw how much my brother liked this site, and began watching him sometimes a few weeks ago, and he showed me around what all the tools do, etc. As for the trade.....well I owed my little brother a favor after he got me out of a tough situation with my parents, who aren't around much these days.

But then again, to be honest, how do you know this is the truth? And the answer is you don't. But I promise that this is the truth, my brother means no harm, he just gets misguided sometimes, and life has been especially hard for him in quarantine, and PC has given him something to hold onto.

I do hope that you'll believe this, and if not, my brother and I included understand.

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Baseballdude? Who is this? Also, it's awfully suspicious that you "all" left at 7:17 PT this morning from the same league. How could three people click that button at the exact same time. You probably signed in to all the accounts. Alright, I've never gotten truly angry on PC, but the cheating is REALLY getting on my nerves. This is ridiculous! If you are actually brothers, I'm sorry about your situation, but this was horrible. I had just started up a league, and before it even started, you had already done ripoffs. That's just horrible to a commissioner. I've given every single cheater on PC that's joined a league with me a second chance. Jwbsavages has been fine (so far) in one of my leagues, Dandy has clearly learned from his mistakes, and I messaged you THE DAY BEFORE THIS CAME OUT saying that I was on to you and you said "I can explain..." gave me a long explanation and then proceeded to tell me that you hope to maintain a long PC relationship. The next day you cheat. I actually have to say, I PM'd Guy about a month ago saying that these might've been dupes for a couple of reasons, but he said there wasn't enough evidence. Now there is. I hope you know how bad this looks on you as a PC owner and a person.

I'm sorry to everyone if this is not a meaningful statement, I just needed to get it out. Feel free to remove me from the boards if this is not my place, I just needed to say it.

Best wishes to all,
gordo

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I don't like to throw myself into drama on this site, but I do think there has to be repercussions. You can't cheat (twice!) in a free public baseball sim without at least some type of discipline involved, whether that be removal of commish status or suspension or a ban. It's just not fair to the many of us who have been on the site for months or years without any incidents of foul play.

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Can the 25th Amendment be invoked........or impeachment?????

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Commish tools revoked for both babyyoda and harrypotter at this time.

I don't know if they are brothers or not, but I don't really care at this point. There has been too much immature behavior lately. Babyyoda was given plenty of chances.

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LOL DeGeorgi... 25th amendment indeed 🤣

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Also, this "brother" thing seems to be suspicious (ignoring political comments).

Not saying it's not possible that brothers would play here, but it doesn't seem likely IMO.

Maybe I'm wrong...

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Sammy-z and Omar are a set of brothers that play within the confines.

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I guess you're right. My last comment was to generalized, I'm sure there are probably brothers that play here within the rules. My apologies...