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What is the Logic here?


What is the Logic here?

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In the Game above Chet Laabs enters as a Defensive Replacement in the 8th inning, which is where DR's are set to enter, however, he's a worse defender than George Vukovich who he replaced, shouldn't the SIM only make DR's if it actually IMPROVES defense, obviously in the case of players PH for, that's not an issue.

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I think there are tons of little "hiccups" that the PC has that we all find during our time playing that frustrate us. This just seems to be another one.

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Defensive Replacements follow your settings.

If [in SB & Defensive Subs] you have a worse defender set as "Yes" in the column "Allow to sub into game" and the better defender set to "Yes" in "Can be replaced by sub", then the worse defender definitely can replace a better one.

The SIM only knows what you tell it about your managerial choices, the SIM will not protect a GM from choosing to play a worse defender.

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I agree with what you are saying Sol, but " allowed to Sub into Game" is a bit subjective, as I said, I can see it for replacing someone Pinch Hit for or Injured, but replacing a superior defender for a worse one is not a DEFENSIVE replacement.

Not a real big deal, just curious

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I agree, a worse defender should not replace a better one, but that's a determination for the manager to make, not the SIM.

The SIM better keep obeying our choices, or the machines would be in charge.

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Heck....I just lost a game that I have NO IDEA how I lost because of the way the sim worked. Team was down 11-4 with 1 out in the 6th inning, and the sim had a player SURPRIZE BUNT. Went on to start a 7 run rally. Now, I know I'm nowhere near a computer, but I have NEVER in 49 years of baseball seen a team bunt with 1 out when it was down by 7. Just defies baseball logic to me. That's the biggest thing I see with here is that the sim does things that defy basic baseball logic.

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Worse than that, I was up by like 12 in the 8th inning and 2 batters on my team bunted for a hit, and were both successful, that is a real rub it in, bush move, that SHOULD get the next batter thrown at.

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i figure you have surprise bunt on and you have it set at a fairly high percentage..
the system is not going to go by the score its going to go by what you have set in strategy
so thus your guys bunt twice for hits

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if the other team has set its surprise bunt on ..its going to do what the manager wants done for that team..
so the system is set for what your strategy is and their strategy then it goes from there
if you want a steril game of logic then chess is your game

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Perhaps there should be a choice to Stop Surprise bunt when up so many runs, like there is for stolen Bases then?

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I guess it's one of the "hiccups" of sim I was saying. I don't know of anyone that would manage a team and be willing to risk giving up a at bat to move a runner to 2nd with 2 outs when down by 7.

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If the defender has a lower fld AND a lower dwar I don’t think he will sub in.

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Arm strength is the only thing I see...

Does that come into play?

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Vukovich had a better Fielding Percentage at .977 and better DWar at -0.37 than Laabs who has a .976 Fielding percentage and worse DWar at -0.79 so Laabs is NOT a better Fielder.

As such there is no upside to replacing Vukovich on strictly defensive grounds, if Laabs had hit for him and then assumed his OF position it would make perfect sense.

Not that either one of them are very good Fielders -

I get what some owners have explained as to how it works, but the logic used, in my opinion, seems flawed, a defensive replacement should only happen if it causes an improvement to your Defense

Your only choices are " Can be replaced by Sub" and "Allowed to Sub into game" - I obviously want my players to be able to sub in, in case of an injury, or say a slow player gets on base on late in a close game, a fast runner comes in for him.

Will the Sim still sub in a guy normally NOT allowed to sub in due to an injury?

As far as I know there is nothing that defines that, although I suspect, the sim would NOT use them, and might actually put an out of position player in instead - because as SOL said, it's just doing what I tell it to do and IF my settings say NOT ALLOWED to sub in, he is basically a pinch hitter/Runner

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You don’t need to set them to sub in for pinch running or injury. That is only for replacing on defense in whatever inning you set it to be (7-9). If the replacement has better FLD or DWAR or arm strength (as in this case) it’s going to do what you asked it to do. It’s smart enough to ignore you if there is zero benefit. That’s really all we can ask.

By the way, I would definitely put Laabs in for Vuk because of the arm, since the dwar and FLD are so close.

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Thanks everybody, I missed the + Arm, which can be big, so that swap does as yankeebb said, have value.

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Also, keep in mind, when the sim rounds up it may be seeing those FLD as equal (they are .001) apart... if the fld is equal it's going to assume you want to make the swap because you've tagged that player as eligible, especially with the arm difference.