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Shoeless Joe in HoF?


Shoeless Joe in HoF?

Just read in NY Daily News newspaper that since he died back in the early 1950's, he may soon come off baseball's ineligible list, meaning he may be finally be eligible for the Hall of Fame. The MLB's official historian John Thorn apparently argued back on 2016 that players on that list shouldn't be confined to that list after they pass away. Meaning anyone on that list who HAS already passed away may all be soon eligible to be selected (likely by the Veterans' Committee) if baseball changes its stance on this

Anyone have thoughts on this?

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Was there a better contact hitter / speed guy in baseball ? He should have been in YEARS ago !!! He may be of questionable moral character ; but , I'm saying he should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame .... not in the priesthood or a law enforcement officer !!!!

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Ty Cobb fits that description, yet he was a sorry excuse for a human being. His EXTREMELY poor character didn't stop the Hall's voters from voting HIM in. Jackson at least was a compassionate person who never objected to baseball's decision regarding his lifetime ban (yes lifetime not neverending). He did apply for reinstatement throughout the rest of his life, but has anyone ever heard of him complaining about it? His legacy has waited long enough (100 years later is plenty of time). I feel he deserves a second chance with the Hall, not just the record books

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1/19 jarc Random Chatter 0 0
After 100 years no way to a second chance man. Not Even Pete rose got.

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1/19 duke Random Chatter 0 0
just a little help for you. Cobb is NOT the person you believe he is. Please take the time to read this. I found many similar teachings to this at the Hall of Fame!!


https://thegruelingtruth.com/baseba..

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Interesting read for sure. But I also noticed that the story about him charging into the stands during a game to beat up a heckler, not stopping even after it was discovered that the heckler in question didn't have either arms or legs, wasn't even mentioned let alone debunked... So not sure what to think now... But nicely done, at least you've caused me some doubt, not an easy thing to accomplish lol

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1/19 duke Random Chatter 0 0
While those stories as well would be disheartening....There is this:

Where is the evidence for these damning allegations? These infamous stories about the terrible Ty Cobb cannot be found in any newspaper articles, police reports, census reports, personal letters to or from friends and family, or any other literature throughout his 23-year baseball career, from 1905-1928.

Sorry, I am plagiarizing, but it does cast doubt on any of the "stories".

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I guess I can see where you are coming from... I'll try to be more thorough and not always take stories like this at face value in the future before making a post like I did before. And honestly anyone who can be a Detroit Tigers fan in this day and age (well, the last few seasons at least) must be truly dedicated to their team.








Wait... Or am I thinking of the Baltimore Orioles? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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1/19 duke Random Chatter 0 0
lol....I'm a Tiger fan as well. Lowly us.

Question: If the Tigers were caught stealing signs, would anyone care??

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Well, they probably wouldn't suck nearly as much as they already do 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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I just assumed that EVERY team attempts to steal signs. Some teams were just better at it than others. I also didn't care about the Ty Cobb stories , the Eddie Cicotte stories , the Denny McClain stories , the McGwire stories or the Sosa stories. I also tend to believe that all professional athletes probably use PEDs , at least , to ease the effects of joint overuse and injury healing.

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I think there should be a league where PED's are not only allowed, but encouraged.

Imagine the entertainment as the meat headed freaks came out to play... lol

As for Shoeless Joe, it was a LIFETIME ban, not a FOR ALL TIME ban. He's dead, let him in!

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1/20 duke Random Chatter 0 0
You are actually quiet correct. I have a personal friend who pitched for the Twins in the 60s. So he has plenty of Mantle/Martin/Berra stories he likes to share, along with Kaat/Killabrew and Carew. PEDs were not around in that era, but speed and alcohol was abused routinely. He said it was common to stay out al night, pop some speed before games and perform at their peak.