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Hit by Pitch


Hit by Pitch

How is this decided by the SIM?? Pennant Chase does not carry PITCHERS HBP statistics only WP - So if a hitter never got hit by a pitch that Season, he cannot get HBP in the SIM.

That seems wrong, a Pitchers HBP should somehow be accounted for.

Randy Johnson Led the League in HBP more than once and Hit 190 Batters in 22 Seasons - in Fairness more like 20 Seasons due to some years cut short due to injury

So he averaged hitting 10 Batters a year however, he is no more likely to hit a Batter than John Smoltz, who hit 57 Batters in 22 years or about 4 per year

I am in a League where there are guys who retired after 15 years NEVER being hit by a pitch once, that's just silly, you would think two things
1) Any Batter can be HBP

2) Pitchers with More HBP should be more susceptible to hit guys with High HBP Counts - as well as hit guys who never got HBP that year -

As it is now if Randy Johnson faces a lineup with no one in it that got HBP he can't possibly hit a Batter, and part of his dominance was that he was a little wild and hitters dared not get TOO comfortable in the Batters box against him

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this is... actually a good point, never really thought about it

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While these are good points, I’m not sure how much more enjoyment I would get out of the sim if this changed for the level of work required.

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What about late in a game, down a run, I have bases loaded my batter cannot be HBP - That can be huge and it gives a hitter who did get HBP that season an unfair advantage over a guy who didn't -

Or it can even allow a batter to reach base, bringing up the guy on Deck who OF COURSE happens to be on Fire and He OF COURSE gets a hit and beats you. I see it happen all the time -

Another thought is that if you get hit by a pitch a lot, you are also going to get hurt and removed from the game if not for longer, but that NEVER happens

HBP on a batters stats is a big edge and it
should be looked at, the time and work was put in to consider HR allowed by pitchers, seems just as important to me considering the ramifications of having HBP in your stats and not

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Homers not only happen more frequently than HBP, but they are also more impactful. The 2021 HBP leader had 27. I’m sure we will all survive.

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You are forgetting 1 simple factor Htennis - A batter who has a HBP in his stats has a way to get on base that a batter without one does, and that is simply inequitable.

A player should not be able to reach base in one of the possible ways to reach base that others don't- it's either cake for all or cake for none.

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Keep in mind in this game a fielder with 1000 FLD won’t make an error. Ever. Some things are just sim related. But, it’s a good question as to why pitcher HBP stats are not imported.

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On the other hand, hitters with zero real triples do triple - and triples aren't a pitcher stat. So the process works differently for different stats.

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Just to clarify the triple thing - I am pretty sure that happens when parks are boosted, players with zero triples have a slight chance to actually get a triple because the large park has an impact on triples.

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I think HBP ar emore on the hitter than the pitcher...

as a funny fact, Mark Lemke former 90's Braves 2B, who could of take couple of those bean balls for the team, never took one in is whole career...

and you get another 2B, Ron Hunt with a ridiculous 50 HBP in one single season season...

Where HBP are way more the fact of pitchers with lack of control getting more HBP.... Certain hitter had a clear tendency for HBP vs some who were just never getting HBP...

https://www.baseball-reference.com/..
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There is no doubt that guys with a lot of HBP are stubborn and refuse to move to avoid getting hit, especially if its an off speed pitch that's going to hit them in an area where it might sting a bit, but not at their head -

Don Baylor is a great example, he would turn into looping curve ball and take it on the upper arm or even better his butt, but every batter can get hit, pitchers simply lose grip or a pitch sails, it happens.

Regardless, every batter should possibly be HBP

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Sorry I never got around to getting back on this, so because of that just a reminder that I don't always remember to get back on every idea, but I do note everything down and it goes on the wish list. I don't mean to be dismissive by not responding to things, I just don't always do because it's not practical for me. That said, a gentle reminder is never frowned upon. In this case SCM did remind me and I am happy to respond.

As always, I have to weigh everything against time and effort. This isn't a trivial request, it's also not an impossible one either. I'll definitely keep it on the wishlist.