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Pitcher Draft Strategy


Pitcher Draft Strategy

New guy here trying to pick up some tips on drafting pitchers in the daily draft format. I find myself more often than not, taking the highest ranked pitcher, or at least one very near the top of the ranks. I've seen many posts on the forums here that rank doesn't tell the full story, and for hitters, I agree completely - depends on how you're looking to build your lineup and team, you may want to have a high OBP and speed guy at points vs. maybe a power guy with a low average or a top defender, regardless of batting stats, so it makes a lot of sense to not go off of rank there. But for pitching, I'm having trouble seeing why you'd venture too far down the rank list. What am I missing here? Or is rank for pitchers generally a pretty good guide? Appreciate any insight as always!

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I generally like to use whip and always, always watch their stamina. Nothing worse than having plans for a guy to be a regular rotation guy only to find out later that he’s nothing more than a long reliever.

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bhicks is right that you gotta check stamina. rank doesn't take that into account. it also doesn't take fire or wild pitches into account too.

some of us like lower h/9 guys that have good k/9 even if they walk more people. Think kerry wood's rookie year. yeah his whip is over 1.20, but he didn't give up a lot of hits per 9 and had a an elite strikeout rate.

even if he's walking more guys, as long as he isn't giving up hits and is striking more batters out, it's less runs given up during a full season. The less hits you're going to get up, the less chances for extra base hits as well. so what if you are walking a person an inning, if you aren't giving up bops, they're less likely to be driven home.

this is why someone like greg maddux may not sim very well on this site. this argument has been beaten to death by new owners frequently. But even if his whip is elite, he is still giving up somewhat high h/9 for an all time great season. So when all time great hitters are up against him, he gets taken yard.

hope this helps. basically every stat is useful for pitchers besides their wins, losses, and era. so it's important to pay attention to them all rather than rank. rank is nice if you're short on time, if you have the time to analyze the player pool, do so.

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For sure when in doubt, H per 9 and K per 9 is the way to go... Always keeping in mind that stamina is usefull to... 100 + staminais pretty much a benchmark..

Compare across league is quite a usefull tool, you wan't to go with highest win % possible here...if a pitcher is successfull in other seaons - leagues, chances are he will be with yours...

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Im just finishing my first season...but i like all the above info plus...i like guys with low hr's (gotta look at abs)..low walk/9 ( cant get a dp on a walk)..also i dont know if it helps but look for high fire. Also you can mould your home park to help your SP....and never take claude hendrix.

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@ATSANBPINETTI: I'd say rank is the best indicator for pitchers. If you want one number, look at that, as you're doing.

Eliminate anyone with lower stamina... depending on the league, could be under 100 or under 90 or something like that.

Bump people up your draft board if they have a higher fire rating.

And then during the season, or when you're looking at a pitcher's COMPILED stats across leagues, I think QS is the best one-number indicator. If one pitcher averages 30 starts and 20 QS and another pitcher averages 30 starts and 15 QS, I'm taking the guy with 20, regardless of ranks or any other values. (Beware sample size and outliers...)

QS relies partially on earned runs, which isn't always a great indicator, but over a large enough sample size, QS is the best. It de facto takes into consideration stamina, fire, and all of the K/9, H/9 etc....

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The only thing I might differ on here is the stress on stamina. Sure higher stamina seems great at first glance but depending on what league you’re in, there is a decent chance that you just might end up with 3 or 4 or even 5 RPs who have better numbers than some of your starters. If that’s the case then I don’t mind some lower stamina as long as it’s not ridiculously low. Nothing wrong with your better relievers coming in in the 7th or even 6th once every few games and really shutting down the other team - especially in the playoffs with the odd rest day. It really depends on your whole staff and the player pool. There’s a lot to consider.

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Also, if you are building your team around pitching, I use WHIP, like I do move the fences back. If you also have great defense, more balls in play is better, can not defend against a walk.

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New here as well... Does the simulator take into account a pitcher’s real-life HRs allowed per 9? Or is it mostly just hits and walks? I.E., will a pitcher that gives up a lot of hits but usually keeps it in the park in real life do the same in this sim? If so, I assume we ‘d need to find other sources for this pitching stat.

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No it doesn’t include HR/9. In this sim the stadium, pitcher, batter determine HR rate not history.

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I agree with Gus regarding stamina. I anticipate riding my bullpen hard, though if my starters manage to hold their own, that's of course a plus.

Your number one bullpen guy can log 120+ innings, if need be, and slots 2-3 can log 80-90. This isn't even including a long reliever. That's a significant load taken off your starters, and of course relievers will almost always have better stats.

I checked out one of my teams, and Sean Doolittle had 142 innings pitched, including playoffs - with a 1.96 ERA. Yeah baby! That's the kind of results you can get when you maximize bullpen usage.

If I see a pitcher with stamina set at, say, 70, I'll be wary, but I'm not going to agonize over Pitcher A with stamina 115 and Pitcher B with stamina 130.